ÇaFleureBon Profiles in American Perfumery: William Carius of Barrister and Mann + Romance in Middlesex County Draw

William Carius of Barrister and Mann

Profile: I grew up in the rural forests north of the Catskills, just outside of Cooperstown, NY, where my parents were bakers when I was a kid. They had a little private bakery and made baking mixes for sale in high-end grocery stores, then later sold finished baked goods at farmer’s markets. They put a huge emphasis on quality, similar to what is currently marketed as “clean eating.” No preservatives, only real butter and sugar, and NEVER high fructose corn syrup, shortening, or modified food starches.

Selling Baked Goods at a Farmer's Market

I was fascinated by what they did, primarily because the idea of combining flavors appealed to me a great deal. Still does, really. I love to cook.

William Carius of Barrister and Mann(he was about 18 months here)

My parents were really too far ahead of their time. Despite trying for nearly a decade, the business folded, and my father commuted back to New Jersey to work as a contractor, while my mother worked for various companies as a merchandiser. They both have a really profound (some would say “stubborn”) hands-on outlook, and they both encouraged me to do things that interested me. My Dad’s very mechanically-inclined and extremely well-read, while Mom’s artsier and has a thing for music and architecture. Very driven, tough people. They’ve always pushed me to do what made me happy.

 William Carius of Barrister and Mann Early DYI

My mother wore Calvin Klein Obsession from the time I was a child up until a few years ago, when reformulation forced her to abandon it. She has lots of different perfumes, though. Her little luxuries. I used to love to smell her collection (and still do, on occasion). I’m not sure that she really knew a lot about perfume then, so she didn’t tell me much about them, but my favorite way to spend my time was to smell all her perfumes and pick out which ones I liked.

William grew up in Cooperstown New York and moved to San Francisco

Perfume fell by the wayside for some years. I grew more interested in the hard sciences and didn’t pay much attention to the arts, apart from an intense love of books (probably 75% of my worldly possessions are made of paper). It wasn’t until I spent a summer in San Francisco during law school that I really became interested in fragrance again.San Francisco has a HUGE perfume culture, especially evident in Union Square.

Hermés Un Jardin sur le Nil was Jean Claude Ellena's first perfume for Hermes© courtesy of Michelyn's Interview with Jean Claude Ellena here

One of my housemates was very, VERY interested in fragrance, and she and I used to head down to the various perfume boutiques to just spend hours smelling what they had to offer, olfactory fatigue be damned. Some of the weirdest things I’ve ever smelled I smelled in San Francisco that year. I was absolutely fascinated by the whole thing. Two perfumes in particular from that time stand out in my memory. The first is Hermés Un Jardin sur le Nil, about which I had read in college, but only remembered upon smelling it for myself. The idea of capturing a scent like green mango, which couldn’t be refined from natural material and instead had to be painstakingly re-created from other components, was an incredibly cool idea to me. The second is HYLNDS Bitter Rose, Broken Spear. No offense to David Seth Moltz, but I HATED it. I couldn’t understand why anyone would ever sell such a thing, let alone buy it and wear it in public. I still describe it to people as the smell of blood and flowers, all hot iron and carnage-covered fields. But, at the same time, it was a revelatory experience: for the first time in my life, it occurred to me that perfume could smell INTERESTING. That I didn’t have to LIKE a perfume to respect it. And I respect the gutsiness of that stuff more than anything else I’ve ever smelled.

I’m currently working out of boxes

On American Perfumery: Being an American perfumer is kind of tough. Many of us are self-taught (I don’t know if it’s the majority or not), and the problem with being self-taught is that you have to prove to people that you really do know what you’re doing. Coming from the men’s grooming world, I’ve had a lot of people over the years say that I should hire a “professional" (by which they mean “professionally trained”) perfumer to create the fragrances for my products. The other thing is that American culture just doesn’t value perfume in the same way that some other cultures do. In Europe, your fragrance is part of your identity and how you present yourself. In contrast, in the US, it seems like the main criterion is that other people don’t find how you smell offensive. When you’re trying to do something really different, and you have an idea about which you’re really excited but which might be a bit “out there,” the emphasis on blending into the crowd can be discouraging.

Barrister and Mann Fougère Gothique

At the same time, there’s a certain freedom that comes with being the outsiders. We’re unencumbered by tradition, and, while many American perfumers obviously admire the great masters, there’s a distinctly fresh radicalism that is strongly characteristic of American perfumery. I like to think that the earnest joyfulness of our work is what makes it quintessentially American. Everything is new, everything is fun, and everything is possible.

Favorite American Artist: Years ago, Tom Waits recorded “Christmas Card from a Hooker in Minneapolis,” a kind of musical sketch about a former heroin addict who tells the listener (“Charlie”) how she has cleaned up her life, is pregnant, and is living with her fiancé, who promises to raise the baby “like he would his own son.” She spends most of the song reminiscing about old times with Charlie, only to reveal at the end that she’s not pregnant or engaged and is, in fact, in prison and writing to borrow money to pay her attorney. The conclusion heartbreaking to hear, when all of the things about which she seemed so excited, and about which the listener is excited for her, are revealed to be fantasy. Her love of simple pleasures is infectious, even moving.I’ve thought a lot about that song over the years, about the mundane happiness of that woman’s imagined life. Perfumes are our simple pleasures, our daily joys and our special secrets. Happiness is part and parcel of what perfumers do. We bring the best of things to life.

William Carius, Founder and Perfumer, Barrister and Mann

Thanks to William Carius of Barrister and Mann, there is a fantastic draw in the U.S., Canada, EU .There are three winners who will be chosen at random. Each winner will receive a 7.5 ml vial of   Barrister and Mann Romance in Middlesex County or if you live in the USA you can choose Fougere Gothique. photos (licensed under the Wikimedia Creative Commons) and cannot be reproduced without his permission. Hermés Un Jardin sur le Nil courtesy of Hermés 

Notes for Romance in Middlesex County:Apricot, Tangerine, Ho Wood, Cardamom, Coffee, Lily of the Valley, Fresh Laundry, Jasmine, Tobacco, Musk, Oakmoss, Sandalwood

Notes for Fougere Gothique: Black Ashes, Bergamot, Lavender, Cedar, Sandalwood, Geranium, Leather, Tuberose, Burning Wood, Mushroom, Oakmoss,Tonka, Vetiver, Smooth Musk, Balsam Fir Absolute

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18 comments

  • fazalcheema says:

    I agree with William a perfume can be beautiful but it does not have to be. Sometimes being interesting is as good as being pleasant smelling. Good luck on your perfumery journey. I am in US

  • It was interesting to read William’s story, and I like this thoughts about perfumes and perfumers role in our life: “Perfumes are our simple pleasures, our daily joys and our special secrets. Happiness is part and parcel of what perfumers do”.
    US

  • I much prefer interesting perfume, something different, to smelling like laundry soap (which is what we seem to like in the US). but, there is room for a pretty perfume, but it’s got to be really pretty, and I guess quite personal….thank you for your story! in the US, thank you so much for the draw!!

  • Thanks for sharing William’s story, and introducing me to another interesting perfumer. Tom Waits is one of my favorite songwriters. Perfume is the comfort blanket I carry with me at all times. Thank you for the draw. I would love to win Fougere Gothique. In the US.

  • Elizabeth T. says:

    I love these profiles. They show so much of the perfumer, are so personal, and a JOY to read. My cousin recently moved to Cooperstown and has told me about it… it draws this journey so much nearer. Thank you for sharing the journey with us. I would choose Romance in Middlesex County. Thank you for the generous draw!

  • Nice story. First time hearing of this House and Perfumer. I would like to try both fragrances. The notes look nice and we shall see what to go with. Thanks for the giveaway
    California

  • Interesting story, I loved reading about the perfumer and his house information, thoughts and feelings about perfumes. Thank you for the lovely draw as well. I live in EU.

  • Chocolate Marzipan says:

    I really enjoyed reading his take on American Perfumery. Romance in Middlesex County sounds divine. Thank you for introducing me to another American perfumery who hails from my home state. I reside in the United States.

  • bumbuliuki says:

    Thank you for sharing William’s profile and story.
    It’s a very personal story and perfume is more than just smelling good to the please the crowd. It’s about memories, olfactory discoveries and experiments.
    Good luck on your journey William !
    I’m from the EU.
    Thank you for the draw.

  • I loved this interview! And I liked his statement about not having to like a fragrance in order to respect/appreciate it.
    I got a sample of his newest creation, Romance in Middlesex County and I absolutely LOVE it! Gorgeous, complex and lasts on my skin for hours and hours. I would absolutely love to be one of the winners of the 7.5 ml bottle!
    I live in the US.

  • Just Add Light says:

    I have to agree with Will that you don’t have to like a perfume to respect its creation. Perhaps it’s a little unfortunate that we North Americans don’t have the same conservative attitude toward perfumery as many Europeans (eventhough I was born in Europe), but I think that makes us a real wild card in the fragrance game and wonderfully unpredictable. From experience, neo-conservative traditions leave little room for innovation and evolution. Perhaps it’s time we re-evaluate our unspoken dogmas collectively and openly, without resorting to segregation in the fragrance community. Cheers for an insightful article. Canada.

  • Fantastic profile/article, loved the stories. His parents in discription sound identical to mine. Regarding Hylnds and all unique perfume there have never been more true words spoken “it occurred to me that perfume could smell INTERESTING. That I didn’t have to LIKE a perfume to respect it. ” I’m a fan of Tom Waits as well what sad lyrics, but a fantastic comparison to excape. Also, brought into understanding the challenges of American perfumers and also the benefits that they can be bold or different because they aren’t held to the classic ways or rules of perfumery. Fantastic read!

  • Really really interesting story. Perfume was always a lot more than pleasing the crowds. As for the fragrances, they both have nice notes, i would love to try them. I live in the EU, thanks for the draw

  • lordkelwynne says:

    I want to say I concur with Will about how Americans approach scents. I firmly believe the scents I collect and wear are completely a part of my identity. In fact, I use them as a part of color memory as a painter. I would absolutely appreciate a sample of Will’s work. I am in Pennsylvania in the US.

  • Carol Webb says:

    I so agree with William’s statement – Perfumes are our simple pleasures, our daily joys and our special secrets. Happiness is part and parcel of what perfumers do. We bring the best of things to life. Putting on perfume can change my mood in an instant. I may not dress up some days.. some days I spend in my pajamas because I work at home and it doesn’t offend my animals. I rarely wear makeup anymore. But I always, always, wear perfume.
    I live in the US, I enjoyed reading. I would choose Romance.

  • VerbenaLuvvr says:

    It is intriguing to discover these backstories of perfumer’s lives and what inspires them. I see the “earnest joyfulness” of what he speaks as being a common thread in American perfumers also in such artists as Nir Guy and Diane St. Clair, they make interesting and uplifting fragrances not for the mainstream but as a product of their own personal histories and inspirations. I live in the US and would love to try “Romance in Middlesex County” as it contains so many notes that I love. Thank you for this lovely draw.

  • doveskylark says:

    This was one of the best profiles I have read in a long time. I enjoyed reading about William’s parents, his perfume discoveries in San Francisco, his quote “Everything is new, everything is fun, and everything is possible.” That is a cool motto to live by, for sure!
    If i were the winner, I’d choose Fougere Gothique.
    I live in the USA.